1993 PLYMOUTH GRAND VOYAGER

FUEL RAIL LEAK AT THE CROSSOVER PIPE, GETTING FUEL ON VALVE COVERS, AND CLOSE TO EXHAUST MANIFOLD. FUEL LEAK WILL NOT STOP. CONTACTED CHRYSLER DEALERSHIP, NO KNOWN FIX AVAILABLE. FUEL RAIL DISCONTINUED, NO PARTS AVAILABLE. NO KNOWN RECALL AVAILABLE. POTENTIAL FIRE HAZARD!!

Mileage: 417,000

ABS BRAKE SYSTEM HAS SPRUNG A LEAK AT THE PISTON ASSEMBLY INPUT SHAFT SEAL. THE LIFE TIME WARRANTEE SHOULD APPLY TO THIS PROBLEM. THE DEALER I AM WORKING WITH INFORMS ME THE REPAIR PARTS ARE NO LONGER AVAILABLE AND ARE REQUESTING DIAGNOSTIC FEES UP FRONT. I HAVE CONFIRMED 3 PART NUMBERS THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR A DOZEN OTHER CHRYSLER VEHICLES TO BE THE SAME PHYSICAL PART IN THOSE 3 AND THE SAME PART FOR MY PLYMOUTH. ALL REFERENCE FOR THE PLYMOUTH PART NUMBER SHOW NO LONGER AVAILABLE. THEY ARE USING MULTIPLE PART NUMBERS FOR THE SAME PART IN DECEPTIVE WAYS TO AVOID REPAIRS. THE FOLLOWING PART NUMBER IS FOR THE LIST OF CARS BELOW AND IS THE SAME PHYSICAL PART FOR MY PLYMOUTH MOPAR PART # R4683555 - LIST BELOW CHRYSLER TOWN & COUNTRY 3.3L V6 OHV, 4-SPEED AUTOMATIC 1991, 1992, 1993 DODGE GRAND CARAVAN 2.5L I4 EFI, 3-SPEED AUTOMATIC 1991, 1992, 1993 DODGE GRAND CARAVAN 2.5L I4 EFI, 5-SPEED MANUAL 1991, 1992, 1993 DODGE GRAND CARAVAN 2.5L I4 EFI, CONTINUOUSLY VARIABLE TRANSAXLE

ABS HYDRAULIC ACCUATOR PUMP FAILED AGAIN. WAS REPAIRED FOR FREE IN 1999. I PAID FOR THE ACCUMALOTOR, WHICH FAILS DUE TO THE LEAKY BRAKE PUMP. CHRYSLER IS DELAYING OR DENYING REPAIR ON LIFETIME WARRANTY DUE TO RECALL.

Mileage: 180,000

BRAKES HAVE NO POWER ASSIST DUE TO ABS PUMP FAILURE, AS DIAGNOSED BY PUTNAM CHRYSLER ON 3/29/13. DEALER CONTACTED CHRYSLER REGARDING RECALL 685. PART WAS SAID TO BE ON BACK ORDER. OWNER HAS CONTACTED CHRYSLER AND DEALER NUMEROUS TIMES TO NO AVAIL. LATEST REPORT (11/7/13) FROM CHRYSLER IS THAT THE PART WAS SENT TO DEALER AND MESSAGE LEFT FOR OWNER AT SOME UNRECOGNIZED PHONE NUMBER. LATEST REPORT FROM DEALER, ALSO 11/7/13, IS THAT REPAIR HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE, WHICH IS NOT CORRECT. DEALER REP WAS TO RESEARCH AND CALL OWNER BACK. NO CALL BACK. *TR

Mileage: 174,456

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 1993 PLYMOUTH GRAND VOYAGER. THE CONTACT STATED THAT AS HE WAS BRAKING TO A STOP, THE BRAKE PEDAL ABNORMALLY TRAVELED TO THE FLOORBOARD CAUSING AN INCREASE IN STOPPING DISTANCE. THE CONTACT WAS ABLE TO STOP THE VEHICLE AS HE CONTINUED TO APPLY THE BRAKES. THE CONTACT REFERENCED NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID NUMBER: 96V099000 (SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC: ANTILOCK), STATING THAT THE VEHICLE WAS PREVIOUSLY REPAIRED UNDER THE RECALL BUT THE FAILURE STILL EXISTED. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN BACK TO THE DEALER WHO PERFORMED THE RECALL REPAIRS. THE CONTACT LEFT THE VEHICLE WITH THE DEALER AND STATED THAT THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED CORRECTLY. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOTIFIED WHO ADVISED THAT THEY WOULD GIVE HIM A RETURN CALL. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 243,067.

Mileage: 243,067

TL*THE CONTACT OWNS A 1993 PLYMOUTH GRAND VOYAGER. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE LIFTGATE HINGE WAS NOT OPERATING CORRECTLY. THE LIFTGATE CLOSED WITHOUT ASSISTANCE. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO AN INDEPENDENT MECHANIC AND REPAIRED. ALSO, THE ABS WARNING LIGHT ILLUMINATED INTERMITTENTLY ON THE INSTRUMENT PANEL. THE CONTACT APPLIED PRESSURE TO THE BRAKE PEDAL AND EXPERIENCED DIFFICULTY SLOWING DOWN. THERE WAS ALSO A MALFUNCTION WITH THE SEAT BELT ASSEMBLY BUCKLE. RECENTLY, WHILE DRIVING APPROXIMATELY 65 MPH IN THE RAIN, THE WINDSHIELD WIPERS STOPPED WORKING WITHOUT WARNING. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO AN INDEPENDENT MECHANIC ON THREE SEPARATE OCCASIONS. THE TECHNICIAN ADVISED THAT THE VEHICLE BE TAKEN TO AN AUTHORIZED DEALER. AT THIS TIME, THE VEHICLE HAS NOT BEEN REPAIRED. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 142,000 AND CURRENT MILEAGE WAS 155,000. UPDATE 10/01/08 *CW THE SET BELT WOULD NOT RETRACT. UPDATED 10/03/08. *JB

Mileage: 142,000

TL*THE CONTACT OWNS A 1993 PLYMOUTH GRAND VOYAGER. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE LIFTGATE HINGE WAS NOT OPERATING CORRECTLY. THE LIFTGATE CLOSED WITHOUT ASSISTANCE. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO AN INDEPENDENT MECHANIC AND REPAIRED. ALSO, THE ABS WARNING LIGHT ILLUMINATED INTERMITTENTLY ON THE INSTRUMENT PANEL. THE CONTACT APPLIED PRESSURE TO THE BRAKE PEDAL AND EXPERIENCED DIFFICULTY SLOWING DOWN. THERE WAS ALSO A MALFUNCTION WITH THE SEAT BELT ASSEMBLY BUCKLE. RECENTLY, WHILE DRIVING APPROXIMATELY 65 MPH IN THE RAIN, THE WINDSHIELD WIPERS STOPPED WORKING WITHOUT WARNING. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO AN INDEPENDENT MECHANIC ON THREE SEPARATE OCCASIONS. THE TECHNICIAN ADVISED THAT THE VEHICLE BE TAKEN TO AN AUTHORIZED DEALER. AT THIS TIME, THE VEHICLE HAS NOT BEEN REPAIRED. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 142,000 AND CURRENT MILEAGE WAS 155,000. UPDATE 10/01/08 *CW THE SET BELT WOULD NOT RETRACT. UPDATED 10/03/08. *JB

Mileage: 142,000

TL*THE CONTACT OWNS A 1993 PLYMOUTH GRAND VOYAGER. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE LIFTGATE HINGE WAS NOT OPERATING CORRECTLY. THE LIFTGATE CLOSED WITHOUT ASSISTANCE. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO AN INDEPENDENT MECHANIC AND REPAIRED. ALSO, THE ABS WARNING LIGHT ILLUMINATED INTERMITTENTLY ON THE INSTRUMENT PANEL. THE CONTACT APPLIED PRESSURE TO THE BRAKE PEDAL AND EXPERIENCED DIFFICULTY SLOWING DOWN. THERE WAS ALSO A MALFUNCTION WITH THE SEAT BELT ASSEMBLY BUCKLE. RECENTLY, WHILE DRIVING APPROXIMATELY 65 MPH IN THE RAIN, THE WINDSHIELD WIPERS STOPPED WORKING WITHOUT WARNING. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO AN INDEPENDENT MECHANIC ON THREE SEPARATE OCCASIONS. THE TECHNICIAN ADVISED THAT THE VEHICLE BE TAKEN TO AN AUTHORIZED DEALER. AT THIS TIME, THE VEHICLE HAS NOT BEEN REPAIRED. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 142,000 AND CURRENT MILEAGE WAS 155,000. UPDATE 10/01/08 *CW THE SET BELT WOULD NOT RETRACT. UPDATED 10/03/08. *JB

Mileage: 142,000

TL*THE CONTACT OWNS A 1993 PLYMOUTH GRAND VOYAGER. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE LIFTGATE HINGE WAS NOT OPERATING CORRECTLY. THE LIFTGATE CLOSED WITHOUT ASSISTANCE. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO AN INDEPENDENT MECHANIC AND REPAIRED. ALSO, THE ABS WARNING LIGHT ILLUMINATED INTERMITTENTLY ON THE INSTRUMENT PANEL. THE CONTACT APPLIED PRESSURE TO THE BRAKE PEDAL AND EXPERIENCED DIFFICULTY SLOWING DOWN. THERE WAS ALSO A MALFUNCTION WITH THE SEAT BELT ASSEMBLY BUCKLE. RECENTLY, WHILE DRIVING APPROXIMATELY 65 MPH IN THE RAIN, THE WINDSHIELD WIPERS STOPPED WORKING WITHOUT WARNING. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO AN INDEPENDENT MECHANIC ON THREE SEPARATE OCCASIONS. THE TECHNICIAN ADVISED THAT THE VEHICLE BE TAKEN TO AN AUTHORIZED DEALER. AT THIS TIME, THE VEHICLE HAS NOT BEEN REPAIRED. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 142,000 AND CURRENT MILEAGE WAS 155,000. UPDATE 10/01/08 *CW THE SET BELT WOULD NOT RETRACT. UPDATED 10/03/08. *JB

Mileage: 142,000

TL*THE CONTACT OWNS A 1993 PLYMOUTH GRAND VOYAGER. THE CONTACT STATED THAT IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO DEPRESS THE BRAKE PEDAL IN HIS VEHICLE. HE HAS TO USE ALL OF HIS STRENGTH TO GET THEM TO WORK. IN ADDITION, THE ABS PUMP IS RUNNING AND WILL NOT SHUT OFF. THE ABS LIGHTS AND BRAKE LIGHTS ARE CURRENTLY ILLUMINATED. THE REAR WIPER ON THE REAR HATCH HAS BEEN REPLACED FOUR TIMES AT THE COST OF $350. THE WIPER CURRENTLY NEEDS TO BE REPLACED AGAIN. WITHIN SIX MONTHS OF HAVING THE VEHICLE REPAIRED, THE FAILURE RECURRED. THE DRIVER'S SIDE DOOR IS FALLING OFF THE HINGES AND THE DOOR WAS REPAIRED ONCE BEFORE WITH A USED DOOR. THE DOOR CURRENTLY NEEDS TO BE REPAIRED OR REPLACED AGAIN. AT 81,000 MILES, THE TRANSMISSION HAD TO BE REPLACED DUE TO SHIFT BUMP BEHAVIOR; HOWEVER, THE FAILURE STILL PERSISTS. THE AIR CONDITIONER HAS NOT WORKED SINCE THE VEHICLE WAS PURCHASED. THE CURRENT MILEAGE WAS 151,000 AND FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 100,000.

Mileage: 100,000

TL*THE CONTACT OWNS A 1993 PLYMOUTH GRAND VOYAGER. THE CONTACT STATED THAT IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO DEPRESS THE BRAKE PEDAL IN HIS VEHICLE. HE HAS TO USE ALL OF HIS STRENGTH TO GET THEM TO WORK. IN ADDITION, THE ABS PUMP IS RUNNING AND WILL NOT SHUT OFF. THE ABS LIGHTS AND BRAKE LIGHTS ARE CURRENTLY ILLUMINATED. THE REAR WIPER ON THE REAR HATCH HAS BEEN REPLACED FOUR TIMES AT THE COST OF $350. THE WIPER CURRENTLY NEEDS TO BE REPLACED AGAIN. WITHIN SIX MONTHS OF HAVING THE VEHICLE REPAIRED, THE FAILURE RECURRED. THE DRIVER'S SIDE DOOR IS FALLING OFF THE HINGES AND THE DOOR WAS REPAIRED ONCE BEFORE WITH A USED DOOR. THE DOOR CURRENTLY NEEDS TO BE REPAIRED OR REPLACED AGAIN. AT 81,000 MILES, THE TRANSMISSION HAD TO BE REPLACED DUE TO SHIFT BUMP BEHAVIOR; HOWEVER, THE FAILURE STILL PERSISTS. THE AIR CONDITIONER HAS NOT WORKED SINCE THE VEHICLE WAS PURCHASED. THE CURRENT MILEAGE WAS 151,000 AND FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 100,000.

Mileage: 100,000

TL*THE CONTACT OWNS A 1993 PLYMOUTH GRAND VOYAGER. THE CONTACT STATED THAT IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO DEPRESS THE BRAKE PEDAL IN HIS VEHICLE. HE HAS TO USE ALL OF HIS STRENGTH TO GET THEM TO WORK. IN ADDITION, THE ABS PUMP IS RUNNING AND WILL NOT SHUT OFF. THE ABS LIGHTS AND BRAKE LIGHTS ARE CURRENTLY ILLUMINATED. THE REAR WIPER ON THE REAR HATCH HAS BEEN REPLACED FOUR TIMES AT THE COST OF $350. THE WIPER CURRENTLY NEEDS TO BE REPLACED AGAIN. WITHIN SIX MONTHS OF HAVING THE VEHICLE REPAIRED, THE FAILURE RECURRED. THE DRIVER'S SIDE DOOR IS FALLING OFF THE HINGES AND THE DOOR WAS REPAIRED ONCE BEFORE WITH A USED DOOR. THE DOOR CURRENTLY NEEDS TO BE REPAIRED OR REPLACED AGAIN. AT 81,000 MILES, THE TRANSMISSION HAD TO BE REPLACED DUE TO SHIFT BUMP BEHAVIOR; HOWEVER, THE FAILURE STILL PERSISTS. THE AIR CONDITIONER HAS NOT WORKED SINCE THE VEHICLE WAS PURCHASED. THE CURRENT MILEAGE WAS 151,000 AND FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 100,000.

Mileage: 100,000

TL*THE CONTACT OWNS A 1993 PLYMOUTH GRAND VOYAGER. THE CONTACT STATED THAT IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO DEPRESS THE BRAKE PEDAL IN HIS VEHICLE. HE HAS TO USE ALL OF HIS STRENGTH TO GET THEM TO WORK. IN ADDITION, THE ABS PUMP IS RUNNING AND WILL NOT SHUT OFF. THE ABS LIGHTS AND BRAKE LIGHTS ARE CURRENTLY ILLUMINATED. THE REAR WIPER ON THE REAR HATCH HAS BEEN REPLACED FOUR TIMES AT THE COST OF $350. THE WIPER CURRENTLY NEEDS TO BE REPLACED AGAIN. WITHIN SIX MONTHS OF HAVING THE VEHICLE REPAIRED, THE FAILURE RECURRED. THE DRIVER'S SIDE DOOR IS FALLING OFF THE HINGES AND THE DOOR WAS REPAIRED ONCE BEFORE WITH A USED DOOR. THE DOOR CURRENTLY NEEDS TO BE REPAIRED OR REPLACED AGAIN. AT 81,000 MILES, THE TRANSMISSION HAD TO BE REPLACED DUE TO SHIFT BUMP BEHAVIOR; HOWEVER, THE FAILURE STILL PERSISTS. THE AIR CONDITIONER HAS NOT WORKED SINCE THE VEHICLE WAS PURCHASED. THE CURRENT MILEAGE WAS 151,000 AND FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 100,000.

Mileage: 100,000

THE ABS SYSTEM FAILED THREE TIMES ON 4/15/08. THE VEHICLE IS A PLYMOUTH GRAND VOYAGER, 1993. I ALMOST HIT A CAR THAT WAS TURNING IN FRONT OF ME. THEN THE ABS AND PARKING BRAKE LIGHTS LIT UP ON THE DASH BOARD. I BARELY MADE IT HOME WITHOUT HITTING ANYTHING AND PARKED MY CAR IN THE GARAGE. WHEN I WENT OUT A FEW MINUTES LATER TO TAKE IT TO A MECHANIC NEARBY, THE BRAKE PEDAL DROPPED WHEN I TURNED THE KEY TO START THE CAR. THE BRAKES WERE MUSHY UNTIL I GOT IT TO THE MECHANIC. HE CONFIRMED THE PROBLEM IS WITH THE ABS SYSTEM AND THAT IT WAS COVERED UNDER THE RECALL. THE BYERS CHRYSLER DEALERSHIP NOW HAS THE CAR AND IS CLAIMING THEY CANNOT REPRODUCE THE PROBLEM AND WILL NOT REPLACE THE ABS UNTIL THEY CAN. I DO NOT WANT TO KILL MYSELF OR ANYONE ELSE WITH A BRAKING SYSTEM THAT MAY FAIL AT ANY TIME. *TR

TL*THE CONTACT OWNS A 1993 PLYMOUTH GRAND VOYAGER. APPROXIMATELY TEN YEARS AGO, THE CONTACT RECEIVED A RECALL NOTICE FOR NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID NUMBER 96V099000 (SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC:ANTILOCK)AND DAIMLER CHRYSLER RECALL NUMBER 685. HE TOOK HIS VEHICLE TO THE DEALER FOR SERVICE, BUT THEY COULD NOT HONOR THE RECALL NOTICE. THEY INFORMED THE CONTACT THAT RECALLS COULD ONLY BE SERVICED WITHIN A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME. ACCORDING TO THE CONTACT, THE RECALL STATED THAT THE CONSUMER COULD GET A FREE REMEDY ANY TIME AFTER RECEIVING THE NOTICE FOR THE LIFE OF THE VEHICLE. THE SERVICE MANAGER AT THE DEALER AGREED WITH THE CONTACT. THE CONTACT STATED THAT GENERAL MOTORS SHOULD HONOR WHAT IS MENTIONED IN THE RECALL NOTICE. IT WAS NOTICED THAT NHTSA'S RECALL NOTICE SLIGHTLY DIFFERED FROM THE MANUFACTURER'S NOTICE CONCERNING THE SERVICES THAT WOULD BE PROVIDED FOR THE LIFE OF THE VEHICLE. THE CONTACT STATED THAT HE CAN PROVIDE A COPY OF THE RECALL NOTICE FROM DAIMLER CHRYSLER. THERE HAD B

TL*THE CONTACT OWNS A 1993 PLYMOUTH GRAND VOYAGER. WHILE DRIVING IN REVERSE AT 5 MPH, THE BRAKE PEDAL WOULD NOT DEPRESS, DESPITE USING EXTREME FORCE. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE FAILURE WAS INTERMITTENT, HOWEVER, THE ABS LIGHT REMAINED ILLUMINATED. THE MECHANIC DIAGNOSED THE VEHICLE AS HAVING ANTILOCK BRAKE FAILURE. THE DEALER STATED THAT HER VIN WAS NOT INCLUDED IN NHTSA RECALL NUMBER 96V099000 (SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC:ANTILOCK). THE POWERTRAIN WAS UNKNOWN. THE CURRENT MILEAGE WAS 155,000 AND FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 120,000.

Mileage: 120,000

DT*: THE CONTACT STATED WHILE DEPRESSING THE BRAKE PEDAL AT VARIOUS SPEEDS, THERE WAS AN INCREASED STOPPING DISTANCE. THE VEHICLE WAS DRIVEN TO THE DEALER WHO DETERMINED THE DUAL FUNCTION PRESSURE SWITCH NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. THE CONSUMER WAS TOLD THE DUAL PRESSURE SWITCH WAS APART OF THE ABS AND WAS NOT COVERED UNDER ANY RECALL. THE CONSUMER WAS TOLD THAT THE PRESSURE SWITCH FAILED BECAUSE THE ABS/PUMP MOTOR HAD FAILED SO MANY TIMES. UPDATED 12/01/06. *JB THE STATED THE ABS MODULE HAD BEEN REPLACED 5 TIMES

Mileage: 96,000

4TH 1993 PLYMOUTH GRAND VOYAGER SE TRANSMISSION. NO WARNING BEFORE COMPLETE TRANSMISSION FAILURE. HAS 1ST GEAR TO ABOUT 15 MPH AND THEN SLIPS OUT OF GEAR. NO REVERSE NO NOTHING. VAN IS SITTING IN MY GARAGE WHILE I DECIDE WHAT TO DO WITH THIS GIANT BOAT ANCHOR. *JB

Mileage: 170,000

I OWN A 1993 PLYMOUTH GRAND VOYAGER LE 3.3L V6 THAT HAS A PROBLEM WITH STALLING. IT IS VERY DANGEROUS AND HAS OCCURRED SEVERAL TIMES WHILE DRIVING ON THE FREEWAY. IT SEEMS TO HAPPEN ONLY AFTER THE ENGINE HAS REACHED OPERATING TEMPERATURE AND WHILE OF EITHER APPLY THE BRAKES OR SITTING AT A DEAD STOP. SEVERAL MECHANIC SHOPS HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO DIAGNOSE THE PROBLEM OR SIMPLY DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE CAUSE IS. AFTER DOING RESEARCH INTO THIS MATTER, I HAVE FOUND THAT SEVERAL PLYMOUTH GRAND VOYAGER OWNERS HAVE HAD THESE SAME EXACT PROBLEMS. THE FUEL PUMP AND FILTER HAVE BEEN CHANGED AND VARIOUS SENSORS AS WELL. THIS IS A HAZARD NOT ONLY TO MYSELF AND MY FAMILY, BUT TO ALL OTHER DRIVERS THAT MAY BE ON THE ROAD AND AROUND MY VEHICLE WHEN THIS OCCURS. WITH THE NUMBER OF REPORTS THAT I HAVE SEEN, I THINK THAT DAIMLER/CHRYSLER SHOULD CHECK INTO THIS PROBLEM, ISSUE A RECALL, AND FIX THIS PROBLEM BEFORE SOMEONE GETS HURT OR POSSIBLE KILLED. *JB

Mileage: 102,000

WHILE DRIVING THE VEHICLE AT ANY SPEED AND APPLYING THE BRAKES, THE BRAKE PEDAL WENT TO THE FLOOR WITH NO BRAKE AT ALL RESULTING IN AN EXTENDED STOPPING DISTANCE. AS A RESULT, CONSUMER WAS INVOLVED IN A FRONT END COLLISION. DEALERSHIP HAS BEEN NOTIFIED. PLEASE PROVIDE FURTHER INFORMATION NOTIFIED. *LA